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17 July 1980 pm in Chuang Tzu Auditorium

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[NOTE: This is an unedited tape transcript of an unpublished darshan diary, which has been scanned and cleaned up. It is for reference purposes only.]

Mind lives in doubt. Doubt is the climate which is absolutely necessary for the mind to exist. In the same way trust is the climate in which the heart grows; they are polar opposites. If one wants to live in the mind then one has to go on increasing one's doubt. Then the whole effort should be how to sharpen doubt, how to make it absolute so that there is no way to come to any conclusion.

Science depends on doubt because science is a project of the mind; hence science never comes to any conclusions. At the most it comes to hypothetical conclusions. And whenever a conclusion is hypothetical it is not conclusive. It simply means for the time being we will sharpen our doubt more and then we will have to change it. So science is always approximately true, never exactly true. It cannot claim truth -- that is not its territory.

Religion is just the opposite of it: it functions through trust, faith. It is a totally different approach towards life. It is an approach through love. That's why religion comes to conclusions and it helps a person to become centred, to relax, to rest. With a hypothesis you can never rest, you can never be at ease. You know that it is only a hypothesis, tomorrow it is going to be changed -- how can you make your home on such shifting sands?

Science can never be a shelter for man. It can give you more comfort, convenience, a better standard of living, but it cannot give you a better quality of life -- that is impossible. That can happen only through religion, because it helps you to feel at home, it gives you something certain to live for. It gives you a rock to build your temple upon -- and that rock is trust.

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is driving the whole world crazy. And remember: I am not against science at all, but I would like man first to be centred in the heart and then to use science as a means. It can never be the goal, it can never be the end. It can only be a good servant, never the master.

Love has to be the master, doubt has to be its servant, then everything is in its right place. Otherwise doubt becomes the master and it starts encroaching upon the territory of love and trust and it goes on destroying everything. It is like cancer if it becomes a master. It has to be put in its place.

I am not against it, it has to be used. Science has to be used for human comforts, convenience. It can give many benefits to humanity. But it never be enshrined as a god. That is not its business but that's what science has been pretending to do. That's why the whole of humanity feels is a desertlike situation where all meaning has been lost, he has become insignificant, worthless. At the most you can drag, but you cannot dance.

Through trust comes dance, celebration, bliss, benediction.

Sannyas means a change, a radical change from the heard to the heart, a jump from logic to love.

Just as the farmer has to work with the seeds and the soil and the water and the sun, a sannyasin also has to work in the same way in the inner world. His

interiority, his subjectivity, is his field, his farm. He has to sow seeds of meditation, of awareness, of consciousness. And he has to work hard. He has to work hard, only then one day can those seeds start growing and one see the inner world flowering and becoming fruitful.

Ordinarily man's inner world remains a desert. It can become a beautiful garden. All that is needed to make it a garden is provided at your birth; all that is necessary is given to you. It if you keep the seeds locked in a treasure box they don't become flowers. If you never take any care of the inner, if you never look at the inner, nothing is going to happen there. Attention is needed.

It has been found recently that attention is one of the most important ingredients for any kind of growth, outer or inner. A child needs the mother's milk, but even more than that he needs the mother's attention. If the mother only gives him nourishment for the body and takes no other care, if the child feels neglected, ignored, his growth is stopped. He loses trust in himself, he loses confidence, he loses the very purpose of life. He starts feeling he is useless, he is not needed. To be needed is the greatest need. Without it, without its cosy atmosphere nothing can grow.

They have found that even with plants... you can put two plants of the same size int he same soil you can give them the same nourishment -- manure, chemicals, everything -- with no difference except one: with one plant be loving and very caring, and with the other just be a nurse.

With one be a mother, with the other just be a nurse: give all that is needed but no attention, no caressing, never a 'hello'. And with the other plant chitchat a little, hug it a little, kiss it. And you will be surprised that the plant that has been given attention grows faster. In fact within weeks it will be double the size of the neglected one, it will bring bigger flowers and bigger fruits.

Although it cannot speak, it cannot say to you thankyou, this is its way of thanking you. Those bigger flowers and bigger fruits are enough proof that the communication has happened, that the plant has felt deep down that there is somebody who cares.

The same happens in the inner world: if we remain deserts we are at fault. We have not taken any care of it, we have never even bothered about it.

Sannyas means the beginning of a new care in your life, becoming attentive to

your inner needs. And the most important thing is attention: pay more attention to your own centre. Whenever you have time close your eyes to the whole world and forget all about it. Shower your centre with all your attention, care, love, and soon you will see flowers coming up. It is a kind of gardening, a kind of farming, and it brings tremendous joy because when you come to see the flowers of consciousness you know that life has not been a wastage, that you have not missed the opportunity, that you have used it.

Man ordinarily lives in a state of unconsciousness, he lives almost in a kind of sleep. Only in a very minimal way is he aware, and even that not the whole time; only in emergency situations. If somebody suddenly comes with a knife to kill you, then for a moment you are alert. Then you will see what I mean when I say man lives in sleep. Suddenly you will see a change: you are no longer as sleepy as you were just a moment before, a great alertness has come. You are shocked. All your thinking disappears, all your dreaming disappears, the fantasies that continuously go on and on stop. For a moment the whole mind stops, there is a blank, an interval. In that interval you are alert.

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George Gurdjieff used to say, and he seems to be very close to the truth, "I have observed hundreds of people and my feeling is that if a person can attain a few seconds of awareness in his whole life, that seems to be more than enough." A few seconds -- even those few seconds are not available.

We live like robots, machines. We go on doing things, and efficiently too, but that does not prove that we are conscious. In fact all machines are efficient and robots can do almost every kind of thing that you are doing; computers can do things better, more efficiently and more quickly.

Now they say that in the next century there is going to be trouble because there will be many robots.

They may be already around, but you don't recognise them. They will look just

like you. They will talk like you and they will be very efficient and very healthy, they will not fall ill.

Machines are machines -- they will remain young longer, they will be more powerful. Only once in a while when something mechanical goes wrong will you recognise that it is a machine, not a real man. For example, the battery runs down... The robot was making love and suddenly he says 'Grrrgrrrrgrrr'. The woman will become afraid -- what is happening? He cannot speak; you may have to look into his pockets and find out what number robot he is, what computer has to be enquired about for him, and what has to be done and what workshop he has to be taken to. They will carry small identity cards and numbers for emergency situations. Or you will have to plug him into the electricity so that he comes back to normal.

Otherwise it will be difficult to make any distinction. They may already be around -- they may be sitting here! If somebody goes 'Grrgrrr'... Be watchful!

Man, as he has existed for centuries -- the common man, the ordinary man, the mob, the crowd -- is mechanical. It is only through consciousness that you can go beyond this mechanicalness. And that is the real birth, then you become twice born. Through your parents you are only given a biological birth, not a spiritual birth.

The spiritual birth is possible only through the master. Hence in the East we have ancient scriptures which say that it is easy to pay all your debts to your parents, but it is impossible to pay the debt to your master. And it is true because the parents have given to you only a biological birth, and in fact they have not given you anything consciously. They were not even thinking about you. You are just an accident to them, they were not waiting for you. They knew nothing about you -- how could they have waited for you? They might have been just attracted to each other by a biological pull, by something like gravitation, and out of that pull you were born. In fact you are just accidental in that way.

But with a master a totally different journey begins. You are given a birth, a new birth, a new dimension: the spiritual dimension. And it is given very consciously, very deliberately.

The whole work of the master upon the disciple is to bring him so some consciousness of his self, of his being. That's what sannyas is all about: an effort

to make you conscious, to help you to rise above your biology.

People live as biological units and die as biological units. Very few people have attained to their spiritual selves, and those that do are the only real men. Everybody has the potential but people never work on it, so it remains just a potential and it is lost.

It can become actual. So make it a point that from now onwards your whole life will become a concentrated effort to become more and more conscious. And as glimpses of consciousness start arising in you, you will be surprised: bliss follows each moment of consciousness. As consciousness deepens, bliss deepens. Bliss is the consequence, the by-product, of being conscious.

Pleasure is animal -- and many people live at that level. They look like human beings but because pleasure remains their only goal... It may be through sex, it may be through food; those two are the most basic sources of their pleasure, and they are interchangeable too: if they repress their sexuality, they start eating more; if they become too involved in sexuality their fatness disappears, they eat less.

Ninety-nine per cent of people live at that level, which is not better than any other animal. And animals can be forgiven, but not man, because animals can't do anything about it and man can do something about it.

He has the capacity to rise above it.

Human beings don't even become human, what to say about divine? Happiness is human. Very few people know the distinction between pleasure and happiness. They go on thinking that pleasure is happiness

-- it is not. Happiness is something far superior, far more refined.

Sex is animal, but then it is pure lust, a gratification of a bodily need. It is physiological, biological, nothing more than that. Love is human. Love is far higher than sex. Sex may be one part of it, and that too, not necessarily. You can have a non-sexual relationship and a very joyous relationship -- you can have a 1/08/07

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friendship which may be even more satisfying than any sexual relationship, far more deep-going, far more ecstatic; and sex can be a part of it, but only a part. There is much more in love than sex. And whether it is a part or not, the moment your being becomes love-full, it transforms the very nature of sexuality too. Then it is not biological, then it is more of the nature of play. It has nothing to do with reproduction, it is just enjoying the company of the other. One of the dimensions can be sex, and that too, not necessarily.

And then in happiness there are many more things which animals are absolutely incapable of enjoying: poetry, painting, music, sculpture. A thousand and one things are there -- the whole world of art and aesthetics. And you can see in music also, music that really belongs to the animal part of you. Particularly the modern music, jazz and pop music, belongs to the animal part of you. Classical music has a totally different dimension. Beethoven or Mozart or Wagner -- they take you into a totally different world.

And eastern classical music takes you even higher because it is part of meditativeness. It almost touches the divine. It was born in the temples, it was born in the monasteries. It was born through sannyasins, not through ordinary people but through people who were tremendously meditative. It came out of their meditation. They had heard something fo the celestial music and they wanted to bring something to humanity. Their music represents something celestial -- something of it, a reflection. It is a far-away echo, but still; a reflection of the moon is a reflection of the moon: it is a reflection but somehow it represents the moon, gives you a glimpse of the moon.

Bliss is the highest dimension of joy. the first is pleasure -- that is animal, the second is happiness -- that is human, and bliss is divine.

Sex is animal, love is human, prayer is divine. In love there may be sex, there may not be. In prayer there is no possibility of sex, is simply disappears. Hence tantra cannot be understood by ordinary people; they are bound to misunderstand it. It is prayer. It has nothing to do with sex. Even making love has nothing to do with sex. When it becomes a meditation, a prayer -- just the melting and meeting and merging of energies in a prayerful mood. It is not even fun or play, it is

devotion.

Bliss is the goal because only in blissfulness do you touch the highest peak of your being, you come to your total realisation. Man is a three-storeyed building. The ground floor is animal. And it is good, nothing is wrong in it; I am not against it, but I would like everybody to know something of the higher. Let the lower be the base, but don't remain confined to it. The second floor is human and the third floor is divine.

In knowing bliss one comes to know one's godliness, one is a god. And unless this is realised, remember: life remains unfulfilled, it remains a deep frustration, a discontentment. When you have reached your ultimate peak, only then is there contentment, peace, silence, a deep satisfaction that one has arrived.

Gold has always been symbolic, both in the East and in the West. For centuries alchemists have talked about it, and they have been very much misunderstood because people thought that they were talking about real god. They were talking about gold only as a metaphor.

Man can become gold, he has all the chemicals needed for that transmutation, but those chemicals have to be mixed in the right proportion, heated in the right way to the right degree. Only in a mystery school is that possible. It is the world of inner chemistry. And the moment everything inside you is put in the right place a great harmony arises.

Ordinarily a man is like an orchestra in which there is no leader, no guide and everybody is playing solo.

Although it is an orchestra everybody is playing solo according to his own ideas, not bothering about others, what they are doing, not making any effort to bring a harmony; hence the noise, hence the craziness inside, the insanity. Almost the whole of humanity is insane. Of course people differ in degrees: a few people are more insane and a few are less, but a difference of degree is not much of a difference.

Only very few people -- once in a while a Buddha, a Lao Tzu, a Basho, a Jesus -- only very few people have been able to become guides of all their elementary forces and have been able to play, not solo, but to become part in an orchestra. These few people who have been able to bring some accord into their beings have known the ultimate truth.

That's what is meant by gold. It is the most precious metal, hence it became symbolic.

The man who knows what to do with all his elementary forces becomes gold; his life becomes really precious. Each moment is so inestimably valuable, each moment is such a gift that one cannot be thankful enough for it. There is no way to show our gratitude to god. His gift is of such immense proportions that we don't really deserve it. He has given it out of his abundance.

Knowing this accord, feeling this accord one becomes blissful. And out of that bliss arises a thankfulness towards existence. That thankfulness is prayer.

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