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21 May 1980 pm in Chuang Tzu Auditorium

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[NOTE: This is an unedited tape transcript of an unpublished darshan diary, which has been copy-typed. It is for reference purposes only.]

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(To Nika) -- This is your name: Ma Anand Nika. Anand means bliss. Nika has two meanings. Both Are beautiful and both are interdependent. The First meaning is born on Sunday and the second Meaning is belonging to god.

God created the world in six days.

The seventh day was his day -- he rested.

The seventh day belonged to him

Hence it is called a holy day, it is divine.

And rest has something about it which is divine:

Relaxation is divine.

The hold of, the whole art of meditation is nothing but The art of creating a deep inner rest

A relaxed state of being.

Six days you are involved in the world Thousand and one things have to be done. Seventh day you relax into yourself

You rest into yourself;

It rejuvenates, it again resurrects you. That's why I say both are related: Born on Sunday and belonging to god. Rest is the way to belong to god

And if one knows the art of restfulness One can act and yet be in rest.

The Jewish god

And the Christian and the Mohammedan god Which are by-products of the Jewish god

Is not so clear about it as the Eastern god is.

The Eastern concept of god is not that Sometimes he works and sometimes he rests. The eastern concept of god is:

His work is his rest.

That is a far higher dimension, Then every day is a holy day Then there is no division,

Your action and your meditation Are not two separate things.

Your creativity and your relaxation Are two aspects of the same coin.

And that's how my sannyasins have to be. There is no need to find

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A separate corner in your life for meditation. Meditation should spread all over your life

Each moment should have the color of meditation. Even while working

You should be at rest, you should remain centered. You should not get disturbed, distracted.

Hence in the East there is no idea of a holy day. Before Christians came to the East

There was no question of a holiday because The Eastern god continuously is creative.

A Sannyasin has to learn the art

Of being active and inactive at the same time. It is a very paradoxical phenomenon

But once you know the knack of it It is the most beautiful thing

That can happen to a man. Then you can be in the world And yet be free of it

Then you can be anywhere, even in hell And still you will be in heaven.

Then one does not care where one is; Wherever one is

One carries one's paradise within oneself.

(To Lieve) -- This is your name: Ma Asti Lieve. Asti means existence. Lieve means a dear one.

Existence loves all.

Existence is not indifferent to us

But is appears indifferent for the simple reason Because we are indifferent.

Existence only reflects.

It is a mirror: It echoes us back. If we shout at it, it shouts at us.

If we sing to it, the song is returned. Whatsoever we do to it

Is returned in a thousandfold way

Because it is returned from all the directions From all the dimensions

From all the planed of existence.

It appears indifferent because we are not loving. Once you start loving all that is --

The river, the mountain, the stars, The people, the animals,

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With a fire in your heart, Once you become warmed up

The whole existence becomes warm towards you. It always pays in the same coin.

It looks meaningless

Because we don't create meaning. It looks as if it is very dull and drab Because we are dull and drab.

To a Buddha it does not appear like that. Buddha has said,

'The moment I became enlightened

The whole existence became enlightened.' And I can vouch for him. I am a witness: What he says is absolutely true.

That's my experience too:

Whatsoever you are, existence is that for you. Now all over the world

Thinkers are very much worried That existence has no meaning

And the only thing they should be worried is That man has lost the capacity to create meaning. Existence seems to be indifferent

And the only thing is

That we have become indifferent and cold. Meditation will teach you two things: Meditation

As far as you inner world is concerned, And love

As far as the whole existence is concerned. Meditation has to be your center, Awareness, a silent watchfulness

And love has to be your circumference, A warmth, for no reason at all -- Because it is so beautiful to be warm

It is so delightful to be warm. At the center be meditative

At the circumference be loving

And you will see the whole existence change. It is the same existence;

In fact you are changing

But immediately, as you change

The whole existence changes with you.

(To Rita) -- This is your name: Ma Anand Gito.

Anand means bliss; gito means a song -- a song of bliss. 1/08/07

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My definition of a sannyasin is a song of bliss. The old definition of sannyas was escapist.

The old saints used to be very sad Serious, with long faces.

And naturally they had to be sad Because they were torturing themselves They were practicing masochism

In the name of asceticism.

In the name of religion they were really Practicing neurotics.

And their neurosis was of their own creation Hence they were incurable because

If a neurosis happens to you as a disease

You can be cured, but if you practise it And you think it is something holy And something sacred

Then it is impossible to cure you.

And they were respected and worshipped for it So why they should think of being cured of it? Their egos were fulfilled by it,

But they were no saints. The whole idea was stupid

The whole idea was wrong, basically wrong Wrong from the very beginning,

And that idea has persisted up to now. That's why my sannyasins

Have to be condemned all over the world. Christians will condemn them

Hindus will condemn them Mohammedans will condemn them -- Everybody is going to condemn them

Because they all have a certain idea of how A sannyasin, a monk, a saint should be.

And what they call a saint, I call a masochist And what I call a sannyasin, they

think that

My sannyasins are materialists, indulgent. Our values are different

Our perceptions are different. Life has to be rejoiced

Life has to be lived in its totality.

It is not indulgence and if it is indulgence

Then god is very indulgent -- what can you do? He has created this life

And he does not seem to be an ascetic Otherwise why those flowers

And rainbows and butterflies -- for what? 1/08/07

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Just think an ascetic god

Will create so may flowers, so many colors So many trees, so may stars?

Darkness would have been perfectly sacred. In fact, an ascetic god

Would not have created any kind of beauty; He would have made everybody

So ugly and disgusting that

Nobody would have ever thought of love. But he makes people beautiful

He makes people lovely. God is not an ascetic --

That much is absolutely certain. God is a lover, a creator, a poet A singer, a dancer.

God is not a neurotic person

And he is not perfectionist at all, otherwise He would have created the perfect world.

In the very beginning.

There would have been no evolution at all He would have created everybody a saint. Everybody would have been a born-saint There would have been so need

Of any religion, of any growth,

But god creates opportunities to grow. He is not a perfectionist either:

He loves growth, he loves enquiry

He loves people discovering themselves. He is tremendously interested

In people growing on their own accord.

He accepts it that sometimes they will go astray; Otherwise they cannot grow.

And he accepts that they will commit mistakes; Without committing mistakes

Nobody can ever learn.

God is not a saint -- that much is certain. If there is any god

He is going to be something like my sannyasin: Utterly in love with existence and life Otherwise he would not have created.

And you have to learn a new kind of religiousness. A religiousness that can sing, dance, celebrate.

(To Connie) -- This is your name: Ma Dhyan Sarjana. Dhyan means meditation. Sarjana means creativity.

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Meditation is inevitable creative, It cannot be otherwise.

First it creates you and then

It creates thousand and one things around you. And it goes on creating

It goes on finding new ways to be creative New methods to be creative; it never tires It is never bored with creativity.

It is always thrilled with new projects It is always full of new dreams Which have to be materialized.

But the old idea of meditation Was very uncreative, hence I say

It was not meditation, it was a kind of suicide. Real meditation cannot be uncreative.

Creativity is the criterion

Whether the meditation is true or false. If it releases creative energy in you Whatsoever you are doing,

If you start enjoying it more

If you start getting

More and more involved into life, if you start Squeezing each moment its total juice

If you start living moment to moment With such utter abandon

As if there is no other moment left, This is the last moment

So you have to live it totally Otherwise you will never live again -- Then your meditation

Is moving in the right direction.

If it makes you uncreative, escapist

If it creates the idea of renunciation in you -- Renounce life and run away from life Become a dropout and go to the mountains, That means it is not meditation -- Something else masquerading as meditation. It is just a slow kind of suicide

And the old idea of religion Has been very suicidal

That's why you will be surprised:

In the East very few people commit suicide In the West more people commit suicide.

And the Eastern so-called mahatmas and saints Brag about it. They say, 'Look!

Our people are so religious They don't commit suicide,

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They are going mad and they are committing suicide.' But their argument is utterly false.

My own observation is totally different: In the East you need not commit suicide

You can become religious -- that is an alternative. You can go to the Himalayas: There are

Five hundred thousand Hindu monks in India. If these people were in the West,

They would have committed suicide Because there is no alternative.

And this is easier than committing suicide. Committing suicide needs a little courage It needs really guts; it is not for cowards.

Cowards go on lingering,

They take their time, they die slowly But religion provides them

A slow kind of suicide, a gradual kind of suicide. Escape form the world -- that is a suicide.

Live in a cave in the Himalayas -- That is almost living in your grave! What is the difference

Between a grave and a cave?

The only difference is that you are breathing But why bother about breathing?

Why so much trouble?

Just lie down in the grave and be finished. That seems to be far easier

Far more comfortable and convenient, For you and for others too.

Because if you live in a cave then Somebody else has to carry food to the cave,

Some fool is bound to serve you ... And it is unnecessary.

The reason why people

Don't commit suicide in the East is Because here is a religious alternative; In the West the religious alternative

Is no more available; in the past it was there. Christians monasteries were there

And people were not committing suicide Now Christianity has lost its relevance but In the East the grip of religion is still great. My religion is not suicidal.

It is life-affirmative

It is tremendous love for life It is rejoicing in life.

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So meditate

And release all your potential of creativity.

That's my message. No Man is an Island Chapter #22

  

 

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